Testimonials

We were provided exceptional assistance by Bronwyn and her team amidst a challenging period. They went above and beyond, offering guidance at every stage. The compassionate women who came to our family home were considerate, empathetic, and showed great respect for everyone’s requirements. This marks the second occasion we’ve sought assistance from CandlePines, and once again, we were thoroughly satisfied with their services.

We had a fantastic experience with Candlepines, Bronwyn and the team. Very professional, knew what they were doing, empathetic and very responsive.

They made this experience for us less stressful and we felt like we could fully trust them. I would highly recommend Candlepines.

Phillip & Bronwyn . Thank you !

On behalf of the family of my Mum, Carol Harrap, I wanted to say what a pleasure it was dealing with you, especially yourself Bronwyn ,ever under such difficult & emotional circumstances .

Your compassion, kindness, patience & empathy throughout the process was amazing. Couldn’t have asked for a better level of service from you.

with kindest regards.

Easy to communicate with and serviced us as expected. Thanks Bronwyn and team.

The recent services provide by Bronwyn and Phillip were fantastic.  The empathy, kindness, patience and knowldge that Bronwyn shared to navigate us through an emotional and difficult process was really appreciated.  Would highly recommend the team at Candlepines. The best in the local area.

Suelette D

Bronwyn did a marvellous job – with sensitivity and gentle, practical problem solving at time when it was hard for us emotionally to focus on making decisions.

I recommend her – she will make sure you and your family have a positive experience despite sad circumstances.

Andre Dreyfus

On behalf of my family, I want to thank Bronwyn and Phillip for their highly professional guidance in helping us to arrange my Suzanne’s funeral.  Bronwyn’s experience and attention to detail carried us through the emotionally difficult task of planning a funeral honouring Suzanne’s life.  I recommend Bronwyn and Phillip without reservation.

Andre Daniel-Dreyfus

Dear Bronwyn & Phillip

We wanted to send our heartfelt appreciation for all your support arranging our mother’s funeral.

You made the whole process seem effortless.

Thank you !

warmest regards

Faith H, Esther & Paul Bole.

Morning Bronwyn,

Thankyou for all you have done to assist with Pauls final Journey. It is very much appreciated

Thankyou again on behalf of the Vincent family.

Kind Regards,

Tara Jumpponen-Clark

My family and I would like to express our gratitude and appreciation to Bronwyn and the team at Candlepines for their services and support whilst we were grieving and making the necessary arrangements. Bronwyn is very attentive and understanding and helped us make decisions for the service and also offered suggestions and advice from her years of experience from what to expect and also what things we need to consider afterwards going forward in life without our loved ones.   Thank you 😊

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Thank you again for the care and respect you showed in organizing my Fathers funeral. today. Exceptional service, highly recommended.   Thank you Phillip and Bronwyn for every thing you did  for our whole family kindest regards

Just wanted to say Thank you so much for all Candlepines support you where absolutely fantastic to us. Made everything very easy for me which i needed .

Faith Hynoski
Sadly, we had to organize a funeral for our mother who passed away in November. Unlike birthday parties which happen yearly, it is the one event that you don’t get to rehearse. The entire process would have been quite overwhelming if it wasn’t for Bronwyn at Candlepines. She made the entire process seem effortless, as well as organizing everything for us to ensure my mother had a lovely service. We highly recommend Bronwyn & Phillip!

Hello Bronwyn and Philip

Thank-you for your care on Wednesday. At a sad time, it was comforting everything went smoothly

Liza Allen

Gepsy Pata

We recently had a loss of our daughter, and we are very grateful to Bronwyn and the other staff at Candlepines Funerals, for their services. Our daughter was stillborn and it was a difficult time, Bronwyn and team managed everything for us from the collection of our little girl to the subsequent tasks. Our little girl will always remain in our hearts, and I’ll recommend Bronwyn services to everyone that might be looking for a gentle touch in these difficult conditions.

Hi Bronwyn,

I want to thank you all very much for the service you provided for mum’s funeral. Everything went beautifully. Please pass on our thanks to everyone involved.

We are very grateful to Bronwyn and Phillip for helping us at such a difficult time. With our mother thanks   Mick Kinniburgh

Dear Phillip & Bronwyn

Thank you for taking such good care of our Aidan. Thank you for the beautiful gifts. WE love having the books and gave us a better understanding of how many people were at the mass .As I think we were all in a daze and cant really remember much.

love Sean,Magi,Renato,Patrick & Sinead.

We are very grateful to Bronwyn and Phillip for helping us at such a difficult time.

They were supportive, patient and respectful with all of our requests. They were always available to answer any questions we had throughout the week and helped advise us through the process.

We would highly recommend Candlepines to help give a respectful send off for your loved ones.

We are very grateful to Bronwyn and Phillip for helping us at such a difficult time.

They were supportive, patient and respectful with all of our requests. They were always available to answer any questions we had throughout the week and helped advise us through the process.

We would highly recommend Candlepines to help give a respectful send off for your loved ones.

A very big heartfelt thank you to Bronwyn and Phillip for helping us organise a custom coffin at short notice and a funeral in an unusual place. They guided us through the process and we’re very compassionate .

Thank you again.

Terry and Joan

Again I need to say thank you. You guys are just wonderful.  And I would always recommend Candlepines to my family &friends.

Jackie Hall

Im very grateful to Bronwyn and Phillip for their compassion.

What ever I needed Bronwyn did, even called a couple of times after the funeral and asked if I was OK….how nice a big thank you.

I would strongly recommend Candlepine to everyone

We contacted Candlepines to arrange for a pre paid funeral both Phillip and Bronwyn we very helpful in advising us of all packages and options and costs that were available. Arranging the funeral in advance was an excellent option for us. When it was time for the funeral arrangements we had a meeting with Bronwyn she was so kind considerate and sympathetic. Bronwyn arranged for the memorial cards the flowers and pointed us in the right direction to arrange the photo gallery and music that we had chosen. It was a beautiful service and everything we had asked for was provided on the day.
I would highly recommend Candlepines for a funeral service their professional approach and attention to detail was outstanding.
I cannot thank Bronwyn enough for the sympathy and kindness she showed to me in all my dealings with her and the help she has offered me weeks after the funeral
Irena Stefankowski

Donna Southern
I couldn’t recommend Bronwyn of Candlepines more highly. She very warmly assisted us every step of the way to create a beautiful and befitting service for dad. I am sure he would have loved it.

Dear Bronwyn ,Phillip and Candlepines team,

My sister and I are beyond appreciative of what you and your team have done for us. You all have provided us with such a heart warming experience with helping is lay our mum to rest peacefully ,we couldn’t have chosen a more beautiful team to go with to help us in this time of difficulty.

Bronwyn and Phillip you have both treated  mum with the upmost care and respect from taking her into your care and finally laying mm to rest. We will forever be grateful for your service.

Again from my family here in Melbourne and overseas we thank  you work , love, support and respect .

Wishing and praying for nothing but  the best in the future both yourselves, your company and family.

forever grateful Shamimah & Virginia.

Vicki Dellamarta

I just wanted to thank and highly recommend Bronwyn and her team from Candlepines. Bronwyn was very compassionate and the staff who attended the nursing home arrived promptly, were smartly dressed and explained everything that was taking place, this made us feel comfortable and at ease. Bronwyn was also helpful in completing our wishes for our mums cremation.

Shamimah Kiwa

Absolutely best experience my family and I had. Bronwyn and her Husband did an amazing job from beginning to end. They were also so considerate and kind during the process and helped every step of the way. Such a great family business and would highly recommend. Again thank you to Bronwyn, her husband and the whole team.

Dear Bronwyn, Phillip, Sandra, Janet, Graeme &Anthony .

“Mark Torjussen ”

Words are never enough for your loving & professional & compassionate support toward me in the loss of my darling Mark. Thank you for looking after him in such a serene funeral home &my thanks to Janet for preparing Mark for his onward journey – he looked so handsome .♥

Dear Bronwyn & Phillip

Words can not express my gratitude for the care, thoughts and respect that you have shown in my saddest moment as a parent.

You have deeply touched my heart with your care and support with my sons service . I know that he would be deeply appreciative and touched by your actions.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart .

Roxanne

To Phillip & Bronwyn

Thankyou both so much for such a wonderful send off.

Godfrey,Simone & Mary.

I would highly recommend Bronwyn who was very kind, helpful and took care of everything for us at a very difficult time. The service was perfect and the flowers were beautiful exactly what we wanted.

Thank you to Bronwyn and Philip, great service, and nothing was a problem, you made our sad day tolerable.

We would recommend Candlepines Funerals every time, it just made things a lot easier.

Thanks again

Sandra Snow

Teresa Skirving

Thank you Bronwyn  & Phil for your patience & organisation skills.

Everything went to plan, Bronwyn was available at all times offering advice & support during a stressful time for the family.

We thank her and would highly recommend Candlepines.

Best wishes from the O’Rafferty family.

Raewyn Ross

From start to finish Candlepines made what is a very emotional experience so much easier. They listen to what you want and assist you in every way to make farewelling your loved one as they wanted to be farewelled. Thank you Bronwyn and Phillip.

Esta Lee

When my sister -in-law passed away, I searched up google and came across Candlepins. Their efficiency, professionalism, care and kind words assisted my family to  be organized and went through the process calmly and smoothly . Even when the body was transferred down to NSW, I was still getting messages of advice, care and assistance,

I would not been able to do what I did without their assistance. Above and Beyond, Thoughtful, Very Caring and Loving.

My sister- in- law went to be with the Lord on 17th October 2022. My family would highly recommend them.

Ray DYT

My wife Maureen’s passing was the saddest day of my life. Candlepines were so helpful and patient with me, working with the coroner, parish church and crematorium.

A professional job well done with care and support. Thank you from both our families.

Jenny Shaw

This was the second time I had organised a funeral with Candlepines, first for my mum and then my dad.  I always found Bronwyn to be compassionate, helpful and professional as she guided me through the process. I would recommend their services, nothing was too much trouble.

Hello Bronwyn

I would just like to say thank you so very much for always looking after me you have been wounderful help ..when loosing my Aunty 🌹❤️&

Now my beautiful mum 🙏❤️🌹thank you for your promt action service you guys are the best I highly recommend your service  ..Candlepines 🌹

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I’m not very good with the computer  so can you do it for me please I would like to Rates your service 10 out of 10 top 🙏

Kindest regards

Vera & family

Dear Bronwyn, Phillip & the Team @Candlepines

Thank you so much for all your help & kind thoughts & words during our time of loss & need.

It was mush appreciated

Thank you.

To Bronwyn Phil & Team .

Heartfelt thanks & appreciation for the wonderful job that you did for Shawn’s funeral.

There was no detail that was not addressed & taken care of.

Yo have been of great comfort to our family at this time .We thank you !

xx Sarah & Family xx

Thankyou Bronwyn and Phillip for your sensitivity and professionalism in helping our family to put our mother to rest. We were overwhelmed with comments on how beautiful the funeral was.

with sincere appreciation

Martin Briffa

Our family are very grateful to Candlepines for taking care of our beautiful Mum during the most difficult time of our lives. Bronwyn was professional, kind and caring, and understood our wishes.

She took the time to get to know the person Mum was and helped us give her a wonderful send off.

Bronwyn was very helpful and made the process very easy for us. Always available to answer all our questions without hesitation. Highly recommend.

I am so very grateful that God has sent us Candlepines. In the sudden loss of our beautiful daughter, Bronwyn and Phil’s professional services have eased our pains.  Their compassion, patience, and understanding made my family feel that our daughter’s service was in safe hands. We felt respected and cared for during what was a difficult time for us. All the staff of Candlepines have helped us take each step and overseen all that is needed so we can truly focus on and celebrate the short but abundant life of our daughter. We are truly thankful to have their friendly, caring presence by our side.

Sincerely, thank you.

Marie & Leung Family

Phillip and Bronwyn Aspinall and the team at Candle Pine in providing all the details towards my father’s funeral arrangements

the experience, and professionalism was outstanding with providing comfort to the extended family members on the day

Tom Dimec

Extremely grateful for Bronwyn who helped at a very sad time. My younger brother passed away unexpectedly.

I contacted a couple of places to get help to pay for the cremation. To my horror they wanted you to jump through hoops, to be able to receive help.

Candlepines was very reasonable, and professional. I didn’t have all the trimmings, which lowered the cost.

Thank you, kindly Bronwyn, for your kindest.

Janice Perrin

Very highly recommend Candlepines funeral s. Their services are very professional, and Phillip and Bronwyn always go way and beyond their expectations.

We have used Candlepines twice and cannot express enough how easy they made organising the funeral and how beautifully they conducted the service.

Mary Giordmainia

To Phillip and Bronwyn

We would like to express our thanks to you both and your team in helping us Celebrate the life of our Father, Father-in-Law and Grandfather,  Bruno Antonini.

The Compassion,  Care and professionalism you extended to all of the Family was amazing and we thank you all Very Much.

Megan Antonini

From all our hearts, thank you for your professionalism, kindness and communication. As you were aware our Dad Bruno meant the world to us and you made the experience of arranging the details we requested feel so very special. I would highly recommend your services, it had a family touch which we greatly appreciated. Kind Regards Julie Davidson

Julie Davidson

A small family business With Bronwyn and Phillip at the helm.

Amazing team with understanding and compassion with so much respect making it easier for all during this difficult time

Nicole Fraser

We recently dealt with Candlepines on the passing of our beautiful mum .Even before she passed away

Bronwyn and Phil were absolutely amazing, helping us with information we needed in the lead up to it all happening.

We rang them once she had passed, they were absolutely caring .

The 2 lovely ladies that came 2 pick up our mum we’re professional and totally respectful of all of us. I would highly recommend Candlepines – just fantastic service

Sonja Sullivan

Hi Bronwyn & Phillip

Just wanted to thank you so much for all of your help, support and preparation with Dad’s service yesterday.

The day went really well and everyone commented on how relaxed it was, which would have been exactly how he liked things.

No more incidents at the venue either. So his final hat trick was it.

Thanks again

Debbie, Carol and family

To Bronwyn & Phillip and all the team at Candlepines Undertakers,

Thank you for your exceptional care of our Dad & Grandad.

With our Sincere Thanks from the Barlow family

Dear Bronwyn

I just wanted to send a message and say thankyou so much for your lovely support to my son Jack Brentwood at his

Father’s [Tyrone} service today .We also appreciate you for fitting us in yesterday during your busy schedule for Jack to

Say a last goodbye. The service was lovely Jack and yourself did an amazing job and  will recommend Candlepines in the future.

Thanks again

Hilary & Jack.

The whole family was so grateful for your exceptional care & sensitivity in helping us with the many arrangements for Tommy’s funeral.

We know Bronwyn, that you went above & beyond with so many of the elements.

Your preparation communication skills were wonderful & with love.

Phillip & Bronwyn

I would like to take this opportunity to Thank -you both on an amazing service you did for my Dad Graham Stemm on 20^th May 2022.

You made it so comforting that my dad Graham is resting in peace no pain & suffering anymore.

Thank you from all of us.

Hello

It’s Rachel Stott here I just received your lovely card today and want to thank you SO very much for the kind words of support it was lovely of you to do that I honestly don’t believe it’ll ever get easier/better and it’ll NEVER be okay Haarley is on my mind day & night EVERY Day & NIGHT from the moment i wake till the moment I sleep (when I sleep) . The pain is just as raw as the day he died my whole life has changed FOREVER & I have to live with it HARD but i have to. I hope you a are all well and coping okay with the virus crisis we’re all going through at the moment ALOT I didn’t realise I could text/ring you guys if I need to but now I know I can I’ll be doing just that every now & then.

Thank you for caring so much

From Rachel

We would like to thank you very much for the ongoing support you have given our residents at Allanvale.

On behalf of our residents they have all appreciated their gifts.

A very big thank you!

Bronwyn & Phillip

On behalf of my mum Gloria & brother Andrew ,I would like to thank you both for looking after my dad once he passed right through to the service .Your whole team made a difficult time so much easier to get through . Covid definitely made a difficult time even more difficult but you were able to accommodate all our wishes ,your compassion and professionalism was second to none and for that we are very grateful

thank you

Gloria, Andrew & Rochelle Manu

Good afternoon Bronwyn!

I would like to pass on my thanks (on behalf of my sisters, Stephane, Lesley and Roslyn) for your patience, time and kindness for ourselves at this terrible time regarding our mum.

Many thanks,

Susan

Very reliable, willing to listen and discuss. Helpful, caring and available when needed. Very supportive.

We would like to thank you for all the support leading up to the end of Mark’s life and the care of him before we said our final goodbye. There were many comments on how fitting his service was. We thank you for everything you have done for us as a family and for Mark.

All I can say is thank you so much for doing David’s funeral, it was beautiful. Everybody that came called or spoke  to me to say it was the nicest funeral they have ever attended.

We first met Bronwyn and Phillip when they conducted my sister’s funeral, we appreciated how they handled such a lovely service. My husband and I, after seeing their ad for pre paid funerals decided we would ease the burden on our children when our time comes, by planning a pre paid service. We were both happy with the way everything was clearly explained to us and at no time were we pressured into more expensive things.

We cannot recommend Bronwyn and Phillip more highly for their dignity and understanding. While we hope we do not need their services in a long time, it is comforting to know when our time comes all our wishes will be fulfilled and less stress on our family.

Thank you.

Sensitive and caring in the most devastating time in my life.

In the conclusion of life, I was made to feel a sense of celebration in the life that was lived.

Hello Bronywn and Phillip, thank you so much for the lovely way you presented Jans funeral I was in no fit condition to thank you properly on the day. You attended to every detail and with my beautiful daughter you gave us a day of loving memories.

I would like to thank you for the excellent care you took of my father and also of my brother and sister and I during this awful time.

Bronwyn & Phillip

I want to thank you for all your help and support with the organisations of my son Haarley.

You did a wonderful job. The ceremony was absolutely beautiful, you did an amazing job.

You made my Haarley look so peaceful and gorgeous when you let me view him and spend time with him before he had to go.

Thank you for taking such great care of him when he was at Candlepines.

Thank you very much for everything.

With much appreciation from Rachel.

Very impressed with their sensitivity and understanding.

They did everything to make this time easier for us by driving over to pick things up and drop things off. There was very little we had to do as they took control over everything.

They were also well priced compared to the big name funeral directors.

Thank you Bronwyn and Philip.

Candlepines were great. They were very understanding and supportive and helped us create a service for our father that was a true reflection of him and his lighthearted nature. The service was lovely and everyone could relate their memories of our father to the Henry Lawson poems they recommended. Under such awful circumstances, they helped us honour our father in a way we will cherish. Highly recommend Bronwyn and the team, they’re brilliant. Thank you for everything.

From the very start, Phillip and Bronwyn were so understanding and helpful and the arrangements for Dirk Hartman were extremely well done and in keeping with his wishes for a very simple commemoration after cremation.
The entire process was handled faultlessly and extremely professionally by Candlepines and even the coffee, tea and biscuits afterward were magnificent.
I cannot rate them highly enough and recommend them – and only them – for
others.
Well done Candlepines team.

Candlepines conducted my fathers funeral 4 weeks ago with great care, kindness and support in a difficult time and was such a beautiful ceremony. Bronwyn you handle the ceremony with great skill and the words you spoke were so appropriate of my dad and l cannot thankyou enough and are forever grateful to you, Phillip and the Team.
Candlepines also conducted my mother in-laws funeral 4 years ago and again l can recommend them as highly professional yet so kind caring and sensitive and supportive and would use their service again.

Bronwyn and Phillip are simply wonderful from beginning to end and beyond the funeral in support of the grieving family. Dad and I can’t thank you both enough. Mum’s passing was sudden and that lovely voice on the end of my first phone call made it all so easier to deal with the details. Thank you Candlepines xo

Thank you for the care and respect you showed in organizing my mothers funeral. Exceptional service, highly recommend. Thank you again

Thankyou Bronwyn and Philip for your prompt and professional attention on our recent bereavement.
You kindly expedited the regulatory requirements and organised things in a very timely manner, which made the entire process so much easier for us.
We were also very pleasantly surprised by the quality of the presentation of my brothers ashes, a huge plus in our eyes.

I’d like to take this opportunity to thank Phillip and yourself for everything you did to help Mum have the ceremony and send off that she deserved.

Your advice, commitment, kindness, compassion and overall service were nothing short of first class and you both made everything so easy for Julie-ann and I.

I’m finding that the word ‘thanks’ is simply not enough. Mum’s service was perfect.

Overall, a 5 out of 5 star rating.

Helpful, understanding, caring and able advise us. Wanting to understand us as people, getting to know our loved one and our family, not just clients.

My family, friends and myself would like to thank you for you support and kindness during our sadness. Feedback I got was very positive.

If someone needs an undertaker, I will recommend your family.

Thank you again from the bottom of my heart

Helpful, understanding, caring and able advise us. Wanting to understand us as people, getting to know our loved one and our family, not just clients

Right from the very beginning Candlepines were very understanding and caring, I couldn’t have asked for any better. They were always there if I needed to ask a question

I would like to take this time to once again thank you all for the wonderful service and organisation you did for us with Margaret’s funeral it was very professional and went so nicely, I will recommend you to anyone. I cannot stress enough what a wonderful family and service they provide ,my wife Margaret passed away on the Saturday I got on the computer on the Sunday trying to get a quote for her funeral in no time Bronwyn rang me and they both Phillip & Bronwyn came to my home and arranged every thing without a hitch, the price was absolutely marvellous and I didn’t have to do a thing which took a great load off my mind they are with out a doubt very professional. I can recommend them highly, thank you very much Bronwyn & Phillip & their family.

I lost my father on December 27th 2013, Candlepines were great from the very beginning, they were very on board with traveling to Port Fairy for the service where my dad lived. Took all the pressure off my sister and I, and could not be anymore grateful for the service we received, all the staff were great and extremely caring. Would highly recommend to anyone

We would like to express our gratitude for the wonderful service you provided for my late husband From the moment we met Bronwyn and Phillip we were very impressed with there caring manner they answered all our questions patiently and put us at ease and gave us a good recommendation for flowers music we thought the funeral service was beautiful It was a wonderful tribute to my husband family and friends who attended the service told us they where greatly moved by the presentation On behalf of my son and myself we wish to sincerely thank Bronwyn and Philip for your outstanding service during our sad loss

Your care and passion after losing Sadie made the whole sad occasion so much easier to handle. My family and I appreciate your sincerity- Thanks to you Phil and Bronwyn.

Thank you again for your care and attention to Brian Condern over such a long time. He would have appreciated at the time the detail and planning involved. I also appreciate all that Bronwyn, Phillip and staff accomplished to give Brian a fitting farewell yesterday .

Everything was simple and you looked after all of the arrangements. The day itself went off without any issues. So all the family were happy with the service.

I found overall that everything is dealt with in a professional manner, and compassionately. Very understanding and very thorough. Like the personal touch.

Just a greatful thank you to Candlepines ,Bronwyn & Phillip for all your kindness and helping me sort out all my dear deceased family member paper work always getting back to me I appreciate everything you have done for me thank you so much. love Vera Petkovic xx Highly recommend your services.

Hello there Phil & Bronwyn

On behalf of my family ,I want to thank-you both for the kind and sensitive way you helped us through this very sad time. The funeral was just as Dad would have wished. I also know that he would have loved the beautiful blue flowers that you creatively arranged for him. A lovely touch! Phil & Bronwyn many thanks Eileen Hesse.

Phillip & Bronwyn have cared for three of my deceased loved ones, the latest being my late brother in law Rodney Hider who passed an the 8th November .The service ,care & compassion they provided from the time they visited my home to make arrangements ,to the funeral service today [16th November 2020] was exceptional.

Nothing I asked was too much trouble ,and they accommodated every request I made . I must have rung them 10 times at all hours of the day or night and never a problem to answer my questions or send me the material I needed, regardless of the hour .They are available 24/7 to their clients, which is a rarity with funeral directors.

I also shopped around for other funeral directors before settling on Candlepines again, and ALL three of the other ones were more expensive for the” exact same service” that Candlepines provided. All three also tried to upsell me on things I said I did not want, trying to make me feel guilty for not choosing a more expensive casket or embalming ,even though Rodney was going to be cremated ,as well as a host of other things I did not want. Candlepines were the “only” funeral directors I spoke to that did not try to guilt me into spending more money . It’s clearly not just about money for them. They are more interested in making their clients happy.

I am delighted with the service i got and would not hesitate to recommend them for anyone who needs a funeral director to treat their loved ones with total respect.

Bronwyn acted as master of ceremonies and did a wonderful job, quoting poems and things I wanted to be said. The service was beautiful ,and everyone that attended agreed. Candlepines are caring compassionate and wonderful to deal with.

I would not hesitate to recommend Candlepines Funeral Services to care for your loved ones, and I am happy to be contacted for further information if necessary. Regards Andrew Leniart – Hoppers Crossing Victoria.